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domain name issueI have a domain where the system was setup internally as domain.org instead
of domain.local. The problem is that we do not host our website so when the employees try to go to our website the system looks internally for it and finds nothing. Is there a setting we can change so that when people try to browse to domain.org the DNS sends them out of the local network to find the website that is hosted offsite? I do not want to rename the whole domain as domain.local (even though I know it should have been setup that way to begin with, someone else set it up before me) "SBS user" <u***@domain.com> wrote in message The ".local" is a bad choice. That was some kind of push from the SBS crew news:%23v2KrQn$JHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >I have a domain where the system was setup internally as domain.org instead >of domain.local. The problem is that we do not host our website so when >the employees try to go to our website the system looks internally for it >and finds nothing. Is there a setting we can change so that when people >try to browse to domain.org the DNS sends them out of the local network to >find the website that is hosted offsite? I do not want to rename the whole >domain as domain.local (even though I know it should have been setup that >way to begin with, someone else set it up before me) to use that, but it was a bad idea. The TLD should not have more than three letters,...some OS's have a hard time with one that is over 3 letters. If you wanted to use "local",...then ".loc" would be a better choice Secondly there is nothing wrong with having the AD Domain the same as the Public Name. Just create a Host Record (an "A" Record) in the DNS Zone. Call it "www". Give it the Public IP# of the web site. -- Phillip Windell The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. -----------------------------------------------------
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"Phillip Windell" <philwind***@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:eqqa08n$JHA.3612@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... Hi Phillip,> "SBS user" <u***@domain.com> wrote in message > news:%23v2KrQn$JHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... >>I have a domain where the system was setup internally as domain.org instead >>of domain.local. The problem is that we do not host our website so when >>the employees try to go to our website the system looks internally for it >>and finds nothing. Is there a setting we can change so that when people >>try to browse to domain.org the DNS sends them out of the local network to >>find the website that is hosted offsite? I do not want to rename the whole >>domain as domain.local (even though I know it should have been setup that >>way to begin with, someone else set it up before me) > > The ".local" is a bad choice. That was some kind of push from the SBS crew > to use that, but it was a bad idea. The TLD should not have more than three > letters,...some OS's have a hard time with one that is over 3 letters. If > you wanted to use "local",...then ".loc" would be a better choice > > Secondly there is nothing wrong with having the AD Domain the same as the > Public Name. > Just create a Host Record (an "A" Record) in the DNS Zone. > Call it "www". > Give it the Public IP# of the web site. I just want to add for the poster, this solution is the best solution to get to the external same-name website. However, if the poster wants to go to http://domain.org (without the www), it is a little more complex due to the 'split-zone' scenario in place (same name internal/external) because EACH domain controller registers themselves into DNS with an IP address as: (same as parent) A x.x.x.x This record is actually called the LdapIpAddress. Each DC registers one for itself. AD uses that record for a number of things, such as DC to DC replication, Sysvol replication, GPOs and DFS. Don't mess with it please. To get around that, on EACH DC, install IIS. In the default website properties, directory tab, redirect it to www.domain.com, which will redirect it to the www record that was created. Otherwise, just live with the fact the users always get to it with the www in front of it. -- Ace This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and confers no rights. Please reply back to the newsgroup/forum to benefit from collaboration among responding engineers, as well as to help others benefit from your resolution. Ace Fekay, MCT, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSA Messaging Microsoft Certified Trainer ace***@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org http://twitter.com/acefekay For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please check http://support.microsoft.com for regional support phone numbers. On Jul 6, 2:46 pm, "Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]"
<ace***@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> wrote: Show quoteHide quote > "Phillip Windell" <philwind***@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:eqqa08n$JHA.3***@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... And remember to update your A records on your internal split-brain DNS> > "SBS user" <u***@domain.com> wrote in message > >news:%23v2KrQn$JHA.528@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl... > >>I have a domain where the system was setup internally as domain.org instead > >>of domain.local. The problem is that we do not host our website so when > >>the employees try to go to our website the system looks internally for it > >>and finds nothing. Is there a setting we can change so that when people > >>try to browse to domain.org the DNS sends them out of the local network to > >>find the website that is hosted offsite? I do not want to rename the whole > >>domain as domain.local (even though I know it should have been setup that > >>way to begin with, someone else set it up before me) > > > The ".local" is a bad choice. That was some kind of push from the SBS crew > > to use that, but it was a bad idea. The TLD should not have more than three > > letters,...some OS's have a hard time with one that is over 3 letters. If > > you wanted to use "local",...then ".loc" would be a better choice > > > Secondly there is nothing wrong with having the AD Domain the same as the > > Public Name. > > Just create a Host Record (an "A" Record) in the DNS Zone. > > Call it "www". > > Give it the Public IP# of the web site. > > Hi Phillip, > > I just want to add for the poster, this solution is the best solution to get to the external same-name website. However, if the poster wants to go tohttp://domain.org(without the www), it is a little more complex due to the 'split-zone' scenario in place (same name internal/external) because EACH domain controller registers themselves into DNS with an IP address as: > (same as parent) A x.x.x.x > > This record is actually called the LdapIpAddress. Each DC registers one for itself. AD uses that record for a number of things, such as DC to DC replication, Sysvol replication, GPOs and DFS. Don't mess with it please. > > To get around that, on EACH DC, install IIS. In the default website properties, directory tab, redirect it towww.domain.com, which will redirect it to the www record that was created. > > Otherwise, just live with the fact the users always get to it with the www in front of it. > > -- > Ace > > This posting is provided "AS-IS" with no warranties or guarantees and confers no rights. > > Please reply back to the newsgroup/forum to benefit from collaboration among responding engineers, as well as to help others benefit from your resolution. > > Ace Fekay, MCT, MCSE 2003 & 2000, MCSA 2003 & 2000, MCSA Messaging > Microsoft Certified Trainer > ace...@mvps.RemoveThisPart.orghttp://twitter.com/acefekay > > For urgent issues, you may want to contact Microsoft PSS directly. Please checkhttp://support.microsoft.comfor regional support phone numbers. whenever you swap out IP addresses. As far as .local goes - I have never had a problem anywhere using .local internally with microsoft clients. Jared Shapiro http://infinitycomputerconsulting.com "YSpud" <ja***@infinitysol.com> wrote in message news:d9118c54-2b04-4eef-bcc3-f2e4992264eb@a39g2000pre.googlegroups.com... Jared,> And remember to update your A records on your internal split-brain DNS > whenever you swap out IP addresses. As far as .local goes - I have > never had a problem anywhere using .local internally with microsoft > clients. > > Jared Shapiro > http://infinitycomputerconsulting.com I've seen issues with the .local name when there are Mac OSx workstations or an OSx server in the infrastructure bound to the domain, because Rendezvous uses that name. Ace "YSpud" <ja***@infinitysol.com> wrote in message Macs with an OS older than v10 had the problem with the loger TLD. I don't news:d9118c54-2b04-4eef-bcc3-f2e4992264eb@a39g2000pre.googlegroups.com... > whenever you swap out IP addresses. As far as .local goes - I have > never had a problem anywhere using .local internally with microsoft > clients. > Jared Shapiro > http://infinitycomputerconsulting.com know of any others specifically. But I like to stay with priciples just the same. Other than that I think a TLD of longer than 3 just looks stupid to me :-) It's that obsessive-compulsive-disorder thing. -- Phillip Windell The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. ----------------------------------------------------- "Phillip Windell" <philwind***@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:%23okFzvw$JHA.4692@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl... OCD? They have stuff for that! > > Macs with an OS older than v10 had the problem with the loger TLD. I don't > know of any others specifically. But I like to stay with priciples just the > same. Other than that I think a TLD of longer than 3 just looks stupid to > me :-) It's that obsessive-compulsive-disorder thing. (just kidding!) Cheers! Ace "Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]" <ace***@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> I like my OCD,..I'm keeping it!> Macs with an OS older than v10 had the problem with the loger TLD. I > don't > know of any others specifically. But I like to stay with priciples just > the > same. Other than that I think a TLD of longer than 3 just looks stupid to > me :-) It's that obsessive-compulsive-disorder thing. > OCD? They have stuff for that! > (just kidding!) > Cheers! -- Phillip Windell The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. ----------------------------------------------------- "Phillip Windell" <philwind***@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:e6ysOux$JHA.4984@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... I guess you can say it's one of the pleasures we're allowed to keep!> > I like my OCD,..I'm keeping it! > "Ace Fekay [Microsoft Certified Trainer]" <ace***@mvps.RemoveThisPart.org> Phillip is showing he has been in the business too long. How do you cope wrote in message news:ux6IAo1$JHA.3320@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl... > "Phillip Windell" <philwind***@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:e6ysOux$JHA.4984@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... >> >> I like my OCD,..I'm keeping it! >> > > I guess you can say it's one of the pleasures we're allowed to keep! > > with file names over 8 characters, Phill? I must admit I also keep to 3 character extensons too! I use .lcl . I even had a test domain on a virtual network called local.lcl . "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message news:%23ZevHV2$JHA.248@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... Hmm, local.lcl? Sounds like an abbreviated stutter.str.> > Phillip is showing he has been in the business too long. How do you cope > with file names over 8 characters, Phill? > > I must admit I also keep to 3 character extensons too! I use .lcl . I > even had a test domain on a virtual network called local.lcl . Show quoteHide quote :-) "Bill Grant" <not.available@online> wrote in message My Therap~1.doc got me past that one. Uh,...I mean Therapist.news:%23ZevHV2$JHA.248@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl... > Phillip is showing he has been in the business too long. How do you cope > with file names over 8 characters, Phill? -- Phillip Windell The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft, or anyone else associated with me, including my cats. -----------------------------------------------------
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