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Author
6 Jul 2005 8:23 PM
Frank
Does anyone run any applications on their domain controller(s) or are you
using the server(s) strictly for authentication, DNS, DHCP, etc?

Thanks

Author
6 Jul 2005 8:43 PM
Ned Gnichtel
As a general rule I would never use a DC for applications. The primary
reason being that if the application is compromised and is running with
local system or an administrator account (very common for applications), you
have just been compromised across the entire domain, including all
resources, applications and security principals in said domain.
Additionally, if the intruder is capable enough, he could potentially
execute a domain trust attack and then its the whole forest that is at risk
(and any domains/forests that have trusts with sid filtering disabled).

Just not a good idea, IMHO. DC's should only run services associated with
role of a DC. These include: DHCP, DNS, WINS and NTFRS/DFS. Anything else,
including SQL, Exchange and 3rd party applications should run on member
servers.

-Ned

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"Frank" <Fr***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Does anyone run any applications on their domain controller(s) or are you
> using the server(s) strictly for authentication, DNS, DHCP, etc?
>
> Thanks
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Author
7 Jul 2005 8:26 AM
Hank Arnold
Hear...hear!!

Also "best practices" mandates more than one DC....

--
Regards,
Hank Arnold

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"Ned Gnichtel" <ma***@ntpower.com> wrote in message
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> As a general rule I would never use a DC for applications. The primary
> reason being that if the application is compromised and is running with
> local system or an administrator account (very common for applications),
> you have just been compromised across the entire domain, including all
> resources, applications and security principals in said domain.
> Additionally, if the intruder is capable enough, he could potentially
> execute a domain trust attack and then its the whole forest that is at
> risk (and any domains/forests that have trusts with sid filtering
> disabled).
>
> Just not a good idea, IMHO. DC's should only run services associated with
> role of a DC. These include: DHCP, DNS, WINS and NTFRS/DFS. Anything else,
> including SQL, Exchange and 3rd party applications should run on member
> servers.
>
> -Ned
>
> "Frank" <Fr***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:BCF44B3D-B854-471F-8149-B7A2E444DF16@microsoft.com...
>>
>> Does anyone run any applications on their domain controller(s) or are you
>> using the server(s) strictly for authentication, DNS, DHCP, etc?
>>
>> Thanks
>
>
Author
8 Jul 2005 12:35 AM
Ned Gnichtel
Good point. One many, for some reason, seem to forget.

-Ned

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"Hank Arnold" <rasi***@aol.com> wrote in message
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> Hear...hear!!
>
> Also "best practices" mandates more than one DC....
>
> --
> Regards,
> Hank Arnold
>
> "Ned Gnichtel" <ma***@ntpower.com> wrote in message
> news:noXye.299$IU1.292@fe11.lga...
>> As a general rule I would never use a DC for applications. The primary
>> reason being that if the application is compromised and is running with
>> local system or an administrator account (very common for applications),
>> you have just been compromised across the entire domain, including all
>> resources, applications and security principals in said domain.
>> Additionally, if the intruder is capable enough, he could potentially
>> execute a domain trust attack and then its the whole forest that is at
>> risk (and any domains/forests that have trusts with sid filtering
>> disabled).
>>
>> Just not a good idea, IMHO. DC's should only run services associated with
>> role of a DC. These include: DHCP, DNS, WINS and NTFRS/DFS. Anything
>> else, including SQL, Exchange and 3rd party applications should run on
>> member servers.
>>
>> -Ned
>>
>> "Frank" <Fr***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
>> news:BCF44B3D-B854-471F-8149-B7A2E444DF16@microsoft.com...
>>>
>>> Does anyone run any applications on their domain controller(s) or are
>>> you
>>> using the server(s) strictly for authentication, DNS, DHCP, etc?
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>
>>
>
>

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