"William A. J." <Willia***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:3E802BF0-ED5B-4828-B53A-53B3442D0F5F@microsoft.com...
> Hi experts!
>
> I have a question regarding Active Directory backup. When it says that we
> have to backup System State, System Disk and System Files, there is
something
> I am not sure about. Suppose a server has only 1 disk, which has a drive
> letter C, system disk would be C and system files would all be in it. The
> server would have a few programs installed. When I want to create DC
backup
> set, what exactly do I need to back up in terms of system files? If we say
> backup the whole system disk, that will include system files and
additional
> programs installed on it. So could anybody tell me what exactly system
files
> are? I assume it would be at least C:\Windows, a few hidden files right
under
> C:\, anything else?
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> William A. J.
>

"Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:

>
> "William A. J." <Willia***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:3E802BF0-ED5B-4828-B53A-53B3442D0F5F@microsoft.com...
> > Hi experts!
> >
> > I have a question regarding Active Directory backup. When it says that we
> > have to backup System State, System Disk and System Files, there is
> something
> > I am not sure about. Suppose a server has only 1 disk, which has a drive
> > letter C, system disk would be C and system files would all be in it. The
> > server would have a few programs installed. When I want to create DC
> backup
> > set, what exactly do I need to back up in terms of system files? If we say
> > backup the whole system disk, that will include system files and
> additional
> > programs installed on it. So could anybody tell me what exactly system
> files
> > are? I assume it would be at least C:\Windows, a few hidden files right
> under
> > C:\, anything else?
> >
> > Thank you in advance.
> >
> > William A. J.
> >
>
> If you use ntbackup.exe then you must back up your whole system
> partition plus the "System State". You must then go through a full
> restoration process to a blank disk. This is the only way to make
> sure that you can do it when the crunch comes.
>
> You should also consider alternatives to ntbackup.exe such as
> Acronis TrueImage (Server). They cost money but they make
> the restoration process much, much easier.
>
>
>

"William A. J." wrote:

> Hi Pegasus,
>
> I am using Symantec BackupExec 11d.
>
> When you say the whole system partition, does that mean the whole C: drive?
> (%systemroot% is on C: in this case). What if there are a few other
> applications installed on that machine? I don't think they need to be
> included. Can I put it this way? All directories that belong to other
> applications can be excluded. The rest needs to be included, plus System
> State?
>
> Thank you in advance.
>
> William A. J.
>
> "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
>
> >
> > "William A. J." <Willia***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > news:3E802BF0-ED5B-4828-B53A-53B3442D0F5F@microsoft.com...
> > > Hi experts!
> > >
> > > I have a question regarding Active Directory backup. When it says that we
> > > have to backup System State, System Disk and System Files, there is
> > something
> > > I am not sure about. Suppose a server has only 1 disk, which has a drive
> > > letter C, system disk would be C and system files would all be in it. The
> > > server would have a few programs installed. When I want to create DC
> > backup
> > > set, what exactly do I need to back up in terms of system files? If we say
> > > backup the whole system disk, that will include system files and
> > additional
> > > programs installed on it. So could anybody tell me what exactly system
> > files
> > > are? I assume it would be at least C:\Windows, a few hidden files right
> > under
> > > C:\, anything else?
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance.
> > >
> > > William A. J.
> > >
> >
> > If you use ntbackup.exe then you must back up your whole system
> > partition plus the "System State". You must then go through a full
> > restoration process to a blank disk. This is the only way to make
> > sure that you can do it when the crunch comes.
> >
> > You should also consider alternatives to ntbackup.exe such as
> > Acronis TrueImage (Server). They cost money but they make
> > the restoration process much, much easier.
> >
> >
> >

"BruceE" wrote:

> We've used Symantec Backup Exec, and NetBackup to backup our DC's.  Backup
> the entire C: drive and make sure to include the System State.  For a DC, the
> System State in going to include all of Active Directory, which the full
> backup of C: won't get due to open file issues.
>
> Also, find the doc's on the Symantec/Veritas web site that tells you how to
> restore a DC.  If you are not using Bare Metal Restore, you have to load a
> fresh OS, then reinstall B.E., then catalog the backup, then go into
> Directory Restore Mode before you do the restore of the full backup of C: AND
> the System State.  You should do this on a seperate test server to validate
> that the backup is complete and familirize yourself on the procedure.
> --
> Bruce R. Ellefritz
> Lead User Tech. Spec.
> Computer Services Bureau
> Phoenix Police Dept.
> bruce.ellefr***@phoenix.gov
> 602-262-1893
>
>
>
>
> "William A. J." wrote:
>
> > Hi Pegasus,
> >
> > I am using Symantec BackupExec 11d.
> >
> > When you say the whole system partition, does that mean the whole C: drive?
> > (%systemroot% is on C: in this case). What if there are a few other
> > applications installed on that machine? I don't think they need to be
> > included. Can I put it this way? All directories that belong to other
> > applications can be excluded. The rest needs to be included, plus System
> > State?
> >
> > Thank you in advance.
> >
> > William A. J.
> >
> > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > "William A. J." <Willia***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > news:3E802BF0-ED5B-4828-B53A-53B3442D0F5F@microsoft.com...
> > > > Hi experts!
> > > >
> > > > I have a question regarding Active Directory backup. When it says that we
> > > > have to backup System State, System Disk and System Files, there is
> > > something
> > > > I am not sure about. Suppose a server has only 1 disk, which has a drive
> > > > letter C, system disk would be C and system files would all be in it. The
> > > > server would have a few programs installed. When I want to create DC
> > > backup
> > > > set, what exactly do I need to back up in terms of system files? If we say
> > > > backup the whole system disk, that will include system files and
> > > additional
> > > > programs installed on it. So could anybody tell me what exactly system
> > > files
> > > > are? I assume it would be at least C:\Windows, a few hidden files right
> > > under
> > > > C:\, anything else?
> > > >
> > > > Thank you in advance.
> > > >
> > > > William A. J.
> > > >
> > >
> > > If you use ntbackup.exe then you must back up your whole system
> > > partition plus the "System State". You must then go through a full
> > > restoration process to a blank disk. This is the only way to make
> > > sure that you can do it when the crunch comes.
> > >
> > > You should also consider alternatives to ntbackup.exe such as
> > > Acronis TrueImage (Server). They cost money but they make
> > > the restoration process much, much easier.
> > >
> > >
> > >

"William A. J." wrote:

> Hi Bruce,
>
> On DC server there are other applications installed, such as antivirus, it
> is also the BackupExec media server, a network monitoring tool, etc. My
> question is, can I exclude directories that belong to these applications when
> selecting the whole C: drive?
>
> Thank you.
>
> William A. J.
>
> "BruceE" wrote:
>
> > We've used Symantec Backup Exec, and NetBackup to backup our DC's.  Backup
> > the entire C: drive and make sure to include the System State.  For a DC, the
> > System State in going to include all of Active Directory, which the full
> > backup of C: won't get due to open file issues.
> >
> > Also, find the doc's on the Symantec/Veritas web site that tells you how to
> > restore a DC.  If you are not using Bare Metal Restore, you have to load a
> > fresh OS, then reinstall B.E., then catalog the backup, then go into
> > Directory Restore Mode before you do the restore of the full backup of C: AND
> > the System State.  You should do this on a seperate test server to validate
> > that the backup is complete and familirize yourself on the procedure.
> > --
> > Bruce R. Ellefritz
> > Lead User Tech. Spec.
> > Computer Services Bureau
> > Phoenix Police Dept.
> > bruce.ellefr***@phoenix.gov
> > 602-262-1893
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > "William A. J." wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Pegasus,
> > >
> > > I am using Symantec BackupExec 11d.
> > >
> > > When you say the whole system partition, does that mean the whole C: drive?
> > > (%systemroot% is on C: in this case). What if there are a few other
> > > applications installed on that machine? I don't think they need to be
> > > included. Can I put it this way? All directories that belong to other
> > > applications can be excluded. The rest needs to be included, plus System
> > > State?
> > >
> > > Thank you in advance.
> > >
> > > William A. J.
> > >
> > > "Pegasus (MVP)" wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "William A. J." <Willia***@discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> > > > news:3E802BF0-ED5B-4828-B53A-53B3442D0F5F@microsoft.com...
> > > > > Hi experts!
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a question regarding Active Directory backup. When it says that we
> > > > > have to backup System State, System Disk and System Files, there is
> > > > something
> > > > > I am not sure about. Suppose a server has only 1 disk, which has a drive
> > > > > letter C, system disk would be C and system files would all be in it. The
> > > > > server would have a few programs installed. When I want to create DC
> > > > backup
> > > > > set, what exactly do I need to back up in terms of system files? If we say
> > > > > backup the whole system disk, that will include system files and
> > > > additional
> > > > > programs installed on it. So could anybody tell me what exactly system
> > > > files
> > > > > are? I assume it would be at least C:\Windows, a few hidden files right
> > > > under
> > > > > C:\, anything else?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you in advance.
> > > > >
> > > > > William A. J.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > If you use ntbackup.exe then you must back up your whole system
> > > > partition plus the "System State". You must then go through a full
> > > > restoration process to a blank disk. This is the only way to make
> > > > sure that you can do it when the crunch comes.
> > > >
> > > > You should also consider alternatives to ntbackup.exe such as
> > > > Acronis TrueImage (Server). They cost money but they make
> > > > the restoration process much, much easier.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >