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Need to monitor all users' web surfing? (no cost (or low cost))

Author
2 Apr 2007 2:02 PM
OscarVogel
I'm looking for an open source software that can monitor each user's web
surfing.  For example, I want to be able to generate a report which lists
all the web sites that each user has visited over a 1 week (or 1 day, or 1
month) period.

We have a small network of 50 users who connect to the internet through SBS
2003 STANDARD Edition. The SBS connects to the internet through our Linksys
router.

I'd prefer an open source solution, but 30 day trial would be almost as
good.

Thanks!

Author
2 Apr 2007 3:56 PM
Frankster
If it has to be free, you must not need it very bad. Why not just skip it?

-Frank

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"OscarVogel" <R**@divecochran.com> wrote in message
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> I'm looking for an open source software that can monitor each user's web
> surfing.  For example, I want to be able to generate a report which lists
> all the web sites that each user has visited over a 1 week (or 1 day, or 1
> month) period.
>
> We have a small network of 50 users who connect to the internet through
> SBS 2003 STANDARD Edition. The SBS connects to the internet through our
> Linksys router.
>
> I'd prefer an open source solution, but 30 day trial would be almost as
> good.
>
> Thanks!
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Author
2 Apr 2007 5:49 PM
OscarVogel
Your assumption is incorrect, but understandable.  It's not really about
lack the need or the money.

The primary reason why I want it for free is because I don't want to ask the
owners to pay for it.  They would probably gladly pay for it, but then
they'd be asking for reports, and whether or not the reports can include
this or that feature, etc.  For now I'd rather keep it as a side project,
that I can work on in my spare time.  That way I can set up the monitoring,
make sure I understand the capabilities, work out any issues, etc all on my
own time schedule.  Then I can decide whether or not I want to offer to
provide them with reports.  That explains why I mentioned that a "30 day
trial would be almost as good."

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to clarify.



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"Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message
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> If it has to be free, you must not need it very bad. Why not just skip it?
>
> -Frank
>
> "OscarVogel" <R**@divecochran.com> wrote in message
> news:eLHoB%23SdHHA.3408@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>> I'm looking for an open source software that can monitor each user's web
>> surfing.  For example, I want to be able to generate a report which lists
>> all the web sites that each user has visited over a 1 week (or 1 day, or
>> 1 month) period.
>>
>> We have a small network of 50 users who connect to the internet through
>> SBS 2003 STANDARD Edition. The SBS connects to the internet through our
>> Linksys router.
>>
>> I'd prefer an open source solution, but 30 day trial would be almost as
>> good.
>>
>> Thanks!
>
Author
2 Apr 2007 6:14 PM
Frankster
In my experience, the type data gathering you need is so cumbersome in its
raw form as to be almost unusable. Especially if someone intends on taking
any sort of action on an individual based on it.

Even though network firewalls do in fact gather this info, they are almost
unreadable without an add-on ($) tool to parse the info for your intended
use.

There are a lot of other things that go into this. One being the proper
configuration of the workstation to audit logins/logoffs (and a utility to
easily parse them - if you don't want to pull your hair out ready every
entry trying to find the one you're looking for).

Bottom line (for me) is if I need this info and expect to be able to use it
in any official capacity, I know I'm going to need a good firewall and a
good log interpreter. Neither one is cheap.

I have, in the past, used a perl script to parse this type of info from a
firewall log. The perl script was free on the net, the firewall was a very
expensive one.

Just my experience.

-Frank

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"OscarVogel" <R**@divecochran.com> wrote in message
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> Your assumption is incorrect, but understandable.  It's not really about
> lack the need or the money.
>
> The primary reason why I want it for free is because I don't want to ask
> the owners to pay for it.  They would probably gladly pay for it, but then
> they'd be asking for reports, and whether or not the reports can include
> this or that feature, etc.  For now I'd rather keep it as a side project,
> that I can work on in my spare time.  That way I can set up the
> monitoring, make sure I understand the capabilities, work out any issues,
> etc all on my own time schedule.  Then I can decide whether or not I want
> to offer to provide them with reports.  That explains why I mentioned that
> a "30 day trial would be almost as good."
>
> Thanks for giving me the opportunity to clarify.
>
>
>
> "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message
> news:b-SdnVzyR4juuozbnZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> If it has to be free, you must not need it very bad. Why not just skip
>> it?
>>
>> -Frank
>>
>> "OscarVogel" <R**@divecochran.com> wrote in message
>> news:eLHoB%23SdHHA.3408@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> I'm looking for an open source software that can monitor each user's web
>>> surfing.  For example, I want to be able to generate a report which
>>> lists all the web sites that each user has visited over a 1 week (or 1
>>> day, or 1 month) period.
>>>
>>> We have a small network of 50 users who connect to the internet through
>>> SBS 2003 STANDARD Edition. The SBS connects to the internet through our
>>> Linksys router.
>>>
>>> I'd prefer an open source solution, but 30 day trial would be almost as
>>> good.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>
>
Author
5 Apr 2007 11:11 PM
Dana
"OscarVogel" <R**@divecochran.com> wrote in message
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> Your assumption is incorrect, but understandable.  It's not really about
> lack the need or the money.
>
> The primary reason why I want it for free is because I don't want to ask
> the owners to pay for it.

If the owners did not ask you for this kind of spying, why are you looking
at spying on these users???????

  They would probably gladly pay for it, but then
> they'd be asking for reports, and whether or not the reports can include
> this or that feature, etc.  For now I'd rather keep it as a side project,
> that I can work on in my spare time.  That way I can set up the
> monitoring,

Again, why. You are infringing on the privacy of others without the owners
permission. If you want to monitor internet access, get the owners involved,
and then notify the users that their internet surfing will be monitored.

> make sure I understand the capabilities, work out any issues, etc all on
> my own time schedule.  Then I can decide whether or not I want to offer to
> provide them with reports.  That explains why I mentioned that a "30 day
> trial would be almost as good."

And again, unless you get the owners permission to spy on their users, you
are being very suspect in your actions and motives
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>
> Thanks for giving me the opportunity to clarify.
>
>
>
> "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message
> news:b-SdnVzyR4juuozbnZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d@giganews.com...
>> If it has to be free, you must not need it very bad. Why not just skip
>> it?
>>
>> -Frank
>>
>> "OscarVogel" <R**@divecochran.com> wrote in message
>> news:eLHoB%23SdHHA.3408@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>> I'm looking for an open source software that can monitor each user's web
>>> surfing.  For example, I want to be able to generate a report which
>>> lists all the web sites that each user has visited over a 1 week (or 1
>>> day, or 1 month) period.
>>>
>>> We have a small network of 50 users who connect to the internet through
>>> SBS 2003 STANDARD Edition. The SBS connects to the internet through our
>>> Linksys router.
>>>
>>> I'd prefer an open source solution, but 30 day trial would be almost as
>>> good.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>
>
Author
10 Apr 2007 10:45 PM
OscarVogel
Dana,

Thanks for your comment.  I agree that monitoring an employee's web access
involves valid ethics concerns regarding privacy rights, etc.  I  feel
comfortable that what I want to do in this particular situation is ethical.
And of coarse, I don't have any doubt that it's legal.  So at this point, if
you have any expertise to offer about how to actually to get this done, I'd
be very appreciative.

Sincere Regards,

Oscar Vogel



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"Dana" <raff***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>
> "OscarVogel" <R**@divecochran.com> wrote in message
> news:%23sBHW9UdHHA.4188@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> Your assumption is incorrect, but understandable.  It's not really about
>> lack the need or the money.
>>
>> The primary reason why I want it for free is because I don't want to ask
>> the owners to pay for it.
>
> If the owners did not ask you for this kind of spying, why are you looking
> at spying on these users???????
>
>  They would probably gladly pay for it, but then
>> they'd be asking for reports, and whether or not the reports can include
>> this or that feature, etc.  For now I'd rather keep it as a side project,
>> that I can work on in my spare time.  That way I can set up the
>> monitoring,
>
> Again, why. You are infringing on the privacy of others without the owners
> permission. If you want to monitor internet access, get the owners
> involved, and then notify the users that their internet surfing will be
> monitored.
>
>> make sure I understand the capabilities, work out any issues, etc all on
>> my own time schedule.  Then I can decide whether or not I want to offer
>> to provide them with reports.  That explains why I mentioned that a "30
>> day trial would be almost as good."
>
> And again, unless you get the owners permission to spy on their users, you
> are being very suspect in your actions and motives
>>
>> Thanks for giving me the opportunity to clarify.
>>
>>
>>
>> "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message
>> news:b-SdnVzyR4juuozbnZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>> If it has to be free, you must not need it very bad. Why not just skip
>>> it?
>>>
>>> -Frank
>>>
>>> "OscarVogel" <R**@divecochran.com> wrote in message
>>> news:eLHoB%23SdHHA.3408@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>> I'm looking for an open source software that can monitor each user's
>>>> web surfing.  For example, I want to be able to generate a report which
>>>> lists all the web sites that each user has visited over a 1 week (or 1
>>>> day, or 1 month) period.
>>>>
>>>> We have a small network of 50 users who connect to the internet through
>>>> SBS 2003 STANDARD Edition. The SBS connects to the internet through our
>>>> Linksys router.
>>>>
>>>> I'd prefer an open source solution, but 30 day trial would be almost as
>>>> good.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>
>
>
Author
11 Apr 2007 2:05 PM
Phillip Windell
Not at low cost or no cost, unless there is a Linux solution you like,...but I
don't do Linux.

MS ISA Server is an excellent product and has vast capabilities, but even it by
itself does not make monitoring a particular user easy to do.  There is an
add-on made by GFI that runs on ISA that adds more of that functionality to ISA.

None of this is cheap.

--
Phillip Windell
www.wandtv.com

The views expressed, are my own and not those of my employer, or Microsoft, or
anyone else associated with me, including my cats.
-----------------------------------------------------
Understanding the ISA 2004 Access Rule Processing
http://www.isaserver.org/articles/ISA2004_AccessRules.html

Troubleshooting Client Authentication on Access Rules in ISA Server 2004
http://download.microsoft.com/download/9/1/8/918ed2d3-71d0-40ed-8e6d-fd6eeb6cfa07/ts_rules.doc

Microsoft Internet Security & Acceleration Server: Partners
http://www.microsoft.com/isaserver/partners/default.asp

Microsoft ISA Server Partners: Partner Hardware Solutions
http://www.microsoft.com/forefront/edgesecurity/partners/hardwarepartners.mspx
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"OscarVogel" <R**@divecochran.com> wrote in message
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> Dana,
>
> Thanks for your comment.  I agree that monitoring an employee's web access
> involves valid ethics concerns regarding privacy rights, etc.  I  feel
> comfortable that what I want to do in this particular situation is ethical.
> And of coarse, I don't have any doubt that it's legal.  So at this point, if
> you have any expertise to offer about how to actually to get this done, I'd be
> very appreciative.
>
> Sincere Regards,
>
> Oscar Vogel
>
>
>
> "Dana" <raff***@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:2fc4d$46158217$944e306e$11242@STARBAND.NET...
>>
>> "OscarVogel" <R**@divecochran.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23sBHW9UdHHA.4188@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>> Your assumption is incorrect, but understandable.  It's not really about
>>> lack the need or the money.
>>>
>>> The primary reason why I want it for free is because I don't want to ask the
>>> owners to pay for it.
>>
>> If the owners did not ask you for this kind of spying, why are you looking at
>> spying on these users???????
>>
>>  They would probably gladly pay for it, but then
>>> they'd be asking for reports, and whether or not the reports can include
>>> this or that feature, etc.  For now I'd rather keep it as a side project,
>>> that I can work on in my spare time.  That way I can set up the monitoring,
>>
>> Again, why. You are infringing on the privacy of others without the owners
>> permission. If you want to monitor internet access, get the owners involved,
>> and then notify the users that their internet surfing will be monitored.
>>
>>> make sure I understand the capabilities, work out any issues, etc all on my
>>> own time schedule.  Then I can decide whether or not I want to offer to
>>> provide them with reports.  That explains why I mentioned that a "30 day
>>> trial would be almost as good."
>>
>> And again, unless you get the owners permission to spy on their users, you
>> are being very suspect in your actions and motives
>>>
>>> Thanks for giving me the opportunity to clarify.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message
>>> news:b-SdnVzyR4juuozbnZ2dnUVZ_vOlnZ2d@giganews.com...
>>>> If it has to be free, you must not need it very bad. Why not just skip it?
>>>>
>>>> -Frank
>>>>
>>>> "OscarVogel" <R**@divecochran.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:eLHoB%23SdHHA.3408@TK2MSFTNGP03.phx.gbl...
>>>>> I'm looking for an open source software that can monitor each user's web
>>>>> surfing.  For example, I want to be able to generate a report which lists
>>>>> all the web sites that each user has visited over a 1 week (or 1 day, or 1
>>>>> month) period.
>>>>>
>>>>> We have a small network of 50 users who connect to the internet through
>>>>> SBS 2003 STANDARD Edition. The SBS connects to the internet through our
>>>>> Linksys router.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'd prefer an open source solution, but 30 day trial would be almost as
>>>>> good.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
Author
2 Apr 2007 4:50 PM
Kurt
OscarVogel wrote:
> I'm looking for an open source software that can monitor each user's web
> surfing.  For example, I want to be able to generate a report which
> lists all the web sites that each user has visited over a 1 week (or 1
> day, or 1 month) period.
>
> We have a small network of 50 users who connect to the internet through
> SBS 2003 STANDARD Edition. The SBS connects to the internet through our
> Linksys router.
>
> I'd prefer an open source solution, but 30 day trial would be almost as
> good.
>
> Thanks!
Logging each and every URL for every user would be very log-file
intensive. Why do they connect through a W2K3 server if you have a
hardware NAT router? If you suspect someone of surfing to specific
URL(s), you could use many open source packages to monitor/log that.
Snort (there's even a Windows version), but an awful lot to set up and
tweak. ntop (Linux) will show you most visited sites and tell you the IP
address - if you have reverse zones configured it'll look up the names
for you. The free one-sensor version of PRTG (Windows) will show you
bandwidth to/from any particular IP address so you can see if anyone's
visiting it. Squid (proxy for Linux) can probably be configured to log
EVERYTHING if you really want, but you'd give up your W2K3 as router or
add it in as another hop. I suppose if all of the traffic flows through
the W2K box anyway, a Windows solution would be best. How about a
firewall that only allows surfing to approved sites (I know that won't
work for many businesses)?

....kurt
Author
2 Apr 2007 6:38 PM
Steve
Try downloading and evaluating websense. http://www.websense.com

If you choose to buy it, it gives you everything you will need. And
you can report on virtually anything.


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On Apr 2, 10:02 am, "OscarVogel" <R***@divecochran.com> wrote:
> I'm looking for an open source software that can monitor each user's web
> surfing.  For example, I want to be able to generate a report which lists
> all the web sites that each user has visited over a 1 week (or 1 day, or 1
> month) period.
>
> We have a small network of 50 users who connect to the internet through SBS
> 2003 STANDARD Edition. The SBS connects to the internet through our Linksys
> router.
>
> I'd prefer an open source solution, but 30 day trial would be almost as
> good.
>
> Thanks!
Author
12 Apr 2007 12:32 AM
Tech-Mentor
> I'm looking for an open source software that can monitor each user's web
> surfing.  For example, I want to be able to generate a report which lists

You may want to download my freeware utility done specifically for
this
specific need.

http://www2.tech-mentor.com/uwr
Author
13 Apr 2007 5:03 PM
OscarVogel
Thanks.  But I think your utility requires ISA which I don't have (SBS 2003
Standard).


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"Tech-Mentor" <alain.ho***@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>> I'm looking for an open source software that can monitor each user's web
>> surfing.  For example, I want to be able to generate a report which lists
>
> You may want to download my freeware utility done specifically for
> this
> specific need.
>
> http://www2.tech-mentor.com/uwr
>
>
>

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