"sifrah" <sif***@walla.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all,
>
> By boss asked me to check the option of using terminal server for
> users.
>
> The requirement are:
>
> 1. It should host 40 users with full desktop application (office,
> IE,Visio, etc)
> 2. The users will use terminals and monitors from their end
>
> The main reason for this is apparently to save money as there are a lot
> of temp users for short time.
>
> Will it be cheaper doing so then buying 40 computers?
>
> Thanks Simon
>

> Hi,
> I run 110 users at 23 branches all using Wyse terminals with 4 x Windows
> 2003 terminal servers
> connected via a VPN over the internet - all sounds very complicated - but
> its not as difficult as you think.
>
> We worked out that we needed approx 25 users per server, we use I.E., VB 6
> programs connected to a  SQL database server, so for 40 users best use 2 x
> terminal servers.
> Don't get sucked into using Citrix its not as fantastic as they make it out
> to be.
>
> Printers
> Make sure that you use as little different printer drivers as possible, use
> all the same make if you can.
> don't use printer drivers like Epson or Brother that have little 'monitor's
> program that sit
> in the system tray - they can cause problems.  Use good laser printers,
> Kyocera, Xerox, Canon
> etc that have drivers made for terminal servers, bit of investment now in
> printers can
> save a lot of problems later.
>
> Licences
> What a mind filed, we had to get a expert in to sort out the licences, but
> even now
> the terminal server give out temporary licenses !  We never did get this
> working correctly !
>
> Terminals
> We use Wyse S30 with a 17" LCD monitor, for office based apps this is fine,
> if all the
> terminals and servers are on the same LAN then you will not have speed
> issues.
> We don't use graphically challenging programs,so not sure how Visio will get
> on.  We use
> MS Office, word Excel etc - all work fine.
>
> Server
> On you PDC set up your active directory with all your users in one unit
> you can then allocate profile limitations in one place.
>
> C: drive
> Word of warning, make sure on your Terminal servers you have a big C: drive
> as this is where each user profile is stored.  We set up a profile rule to
> clear the users
> IE temporary files when they exit from IE - just to save space.
>
> Okay that's all for now - have fun !
>
> Mike.
>
> PS
> These are my own thoughts - sorry if I have upset any Citrix users !
>
>
> "sifrah" <sif***@walla.com> wrote in message
> news:1166318087.985223.122160@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > By boss asked me to check the option of using terminal server for
> > users.
> >
> > The requirement are:
> >
> > 1. It should host 40 users with full desktop application (office,
> > IE,Visio, etc)
> > 2. The users will use terminals and monitors from their end
> >
> > The main reason for this is apparently to save money as there are a lot
> > of temp users for short time.
> >
> > Will it be cheaper doing so then buying 40 computers?
> >
> > Thanks Simon
> >

"sifrah" <sif***@walla.com> wrote in message
news:1166341301.782562.252010@16g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
> Hi Mike,
> Thank you, I think now i'll be able to give my boss a better
> prospective about this issue.
>
> P.S
> Does it save money after all?
>
> Simon
>
> MadMike42 wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I run 110 users at 23 branches all using Wyse terminals with 4 x Windows
>> 2003 terminal servers
>> connected via a VPN over the internet - all sounds very complicated - but
>> its not as difficult as you think.
>>
>> We worked out that we needed approx 25 users per server, we use I.E., VB
>> 6
>> programs connected to a  SQL database server, so for 40 users best use 2
>> x
>> terminal servers.
>> Don't get sucked into using Citrix its not as fantastic as they make it
>> out
>> to be.
>>
>> Printers
>> Make sure that you use as little different printer drivers as possible,
>> use
>> all the same make if you can.
>> don't use printer drivers like Epson or Brother that have little
>> 'monitor's
>> program that sit
>> in the system tray - they can cause problems.  Use good laser printers,
>> Kyocera, Xerox, Canon
>> etc that have drivers made for terminal servers, bit of investment now in
>> printers can
>> save a lot of problems later.
>>
>> Licences
>> What a mind filed, we had to get a expert in to sort out the licences,
>> but
>> even now
>> the terminal server give out temporary licenses !  We never did get this
>> working correctly !
>>
>> Terminals
>> We use Wyse S30 with a 17" LCD monitor, for office based apps this is
>> fine,
>> if all the
>> terminals and servers are on the same LAN then you will not have speed
>> issues.
>> We don't use graphically challenging programs,so not sure how Visio will
>> get
>> on.  We use
>> MS Office, word Excel etc - all work fine.
>>
>> Server
>> On you PDC set up your active directory with all your users in one unit
>> you can then allocate profile limitations in one place.
>>
>> C: drive
>> Word of warning, make sure on your Terminal servers you have a big C:
>> drive
>> as this is where each user profile is stored.  We set up a profile rule
>> to
>> clear the users
>> IE temporary files when they exit from IE - just to save space.
>>
>> Okay that's all for now - have fun !
>>
>> Mike.
>>
>> PS
>> These are my own thoughts - sorry if I have upset any Citrix users !
>>
>>
>> "sifrah" <sif***@walla.com> wrote in message
>> news:1166318087.985223.122160@73g2000cwn.googlegroups.com...
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > By boss asked me to check the option of using terminal server for
>> > users.
>> >
>> > The requirement are:
>> >
>> > 1. It should host 40 users with full desktop application (office,
>> > IE,Visio, etc)
>> > 2. The users will use terminals and monitors from their end
>> >
>> > The main reason for this is apparently to save money as there are a lot
>> > of temp users for short time.
>> >
>> > Will it be cheaper doing so then buying 40 computers?
>> >
>> > Thanks Simon
>> >
>