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Author
7 Oct 2006 12:15 PM
6
I have an asp page with a form that collects name, email address, etc. the
form page posts to itself so what I do is check to see if the request method
is POST and if it is I grab the data, do something with it, and display a
message below the form. I want to implement an image verification (captcha)
system. the problem I have is that when you submit the form if the captcha
test fails, all the info you entered into the form is cleared and the user
has to start over. I want the info to stay until the form is successfully
submitted. now, I can set the default value of the text fields to
request.form("fieldname"), but the problem here is that I WANT the info to
be cleared when the form is submitted (users are used to this happening and
if the data stays in the form after a good submission they will be confused)

is there something clever I can do here?

Author
7 Oct 2006 12:24 PM
Anthony Jones
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"6" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
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> I have an asp page with a form that collects name, email address, etc. the
> form page posts to itself so what I do is check to see if the request
method
> is POST and if it is I grab the data, do something with it, and display a
> message below the form. I want to implement an image verification
(captcha)
> system. the problem I have is that when you submit the form if the captcha
> test fails, all the info you entered into the form is cleared and the user
> has to start over. I want the info to stay until the form is successfully
> submitted. now, I can set the default value of the text fields to
> request.form("fieldname"), but the problem here is that I WANT the info to
> be cleared when the form is submitted (users are used to this happening
and
> if the data stays in the form after a good submission they will be
confused)
>
> is there something clever I can do here?
>
>

Function GetDefault(Name)
    If mbFailed Then
        GetDefault = Server.HTMLEncode(Request.Form(Name))
    End If
End Function

<input value="<%=GetDefault("field1")%>  name="field1" />

I would recommend that you make yourself familar with the VBScript language
such constructs as If Else End If and Function are really useful sometimes.
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Author
8 Oct 2006 12:26 PM
SLH
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"Anthony Jones" <A**@yadayadayada.com> wrote in message
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>
> "6" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
> news:Oza7Wpg6GHA.4408@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> I have an asp page with a form that collects name, email address, etc.
>> the
>> form page posts to itself so what I do is check to see if the request
> method
>> is POST and if it is I grab the data, do something with it, and display a
>> message below the form. I want to implement an image verification
> (captcha)
>> system. the problem I have is that when you submit the form if the
>> captcha
>> test fails, all the info you entered into the form is cleared and the
>> user
>> has to start over. I want the info to stay until the form is successfully
>> submitted. now, I can set the default value of the text fields to
>> request.form("fieldname"), but the problem here is that I WANT the info
>> to
>> be cleared when the form is submitted (users are used to this happening
> and
>> if the data stays in the form after a good submission they will be
> confused)
>>
>> is there something clever I can do here?
>>
>>
>
> Function GetDefault(Name)
>    If mbFailed Then
>        GetDefault = Server.HTMLEncode(Request.Form(Name))
>    End If
> End Function
>
> <input value="<%=GetDefault("field1")%>  name="field1" />
>
> I would recommend that you make yourself familar with the VBScript
> language
> such constructs as If Else End If and Function are really useful
> sometimes.
>
>
>
>
close but doesnt work. it keeps the data even when the verification is
successful. you should try it out and youll see.
anyone else have any ideas?
Author
8 Oct 2006 2:49 PM
Anthony Jones
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"SLH" <S**@SLH.SLH> wrote in message
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>
> "Anthony Jones" <A**@yadayadayada.com> wrote in message
> news:%23DhVQug6GHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >
> > "6" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
> > news:Oza7Wpg6GHA.4408@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> I have an asp page with a form that collects name, email address, etc.
> >> the
> >> form page posts to itself so what I do is check to see if the request
> > method
> >> is POST and if it is I grab the data, do something with it, and display
a
> >> message below the form. I want to implement an image verification
> > (captcha)
> >> system. the problem I have is that when you submit the form if the
> >> captcha
> >> test fails, all the info you entered into the form is cleared and the
> >> user
> >> has to start over. I want the info to stay until the form is
successfully
> >> submitted. now, I can set the default value of the text fields to
> >> request.form("fieldname"), but the problem here is that I WANT the info
> >> to
> >> be cleared when the form is submitted (users are used to this happening
> > and
> >> if the data stays in the form after a good submission they will be
> > confused)
> >>
> >> is there something clever I can do here?
> >>
> >>
> >
> > Function GetDefault(Name)
> >    If mbFailed Then
> >        GetDefault = Server.HTMLEncode(Request.Form(Name))
> >    End If
> > End Function
> >
> > <input value="<%=GetDefault("field1")%>  name="field1" />
> >
> > I would recommend that you make yourself familar with the VBScript
> > language
> > such constructs as If Else End If and Function are really useful
> > sometimes.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> close but doesnt work. it keeps the data even when the verification is
> successful. you should try it out and youll see.
> anyone else have any ideas?

Yep it were broken here's one that works:-

<%

Dim mbFailed : mbFailed = True

If Request.ServerVariables("HTTP_METHOD") = "POST" Then
mbFailed = LCase(Request.Form("field1")) <> "bad"
End If

%>
<html>
<body>
  <form method="POST" action="test.asp">
   <input name="field1" value="<%=GetDefault("field1")%>" />
   <input type="submit" value="Post" />
</body>
</html>
<%
Function GetDefault(Name)
    If Not mbFailed Then
      GetDefault = Server.HTMLEncode(Request.Form(Name))
    End If
End Function
%>
Author
8 Oct 2006 3:47 PM
SLH
dude... all due respect, that doesnt even DO anything.
thanks for your help but if youre not going to provide a complete working
example id rather give up now



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>
> "SLH" <S**@SLH.SLH> wrote in message
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>>
>> "Anthony Jones" <A**@yadayadayada.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23DhVQug6GHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>> >
>> > "6" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
>> > news:Oza7Wpg6GHA.4408@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>> >> I have an asp page with a form that collects name, email address, etc.
>> >> the
>> >> form page posts to itself so what I do is check to see if the request
>> > method
>> >> is POST and if it is I grab the data, do something with it, and
>> >> display
> a
>> >> message below the form. I want to implement an image verification
>> > (captcha)
>> >> system. the problem I have is that when you submit the form if the
>> >> captcha
>> >> test fails, all the info you entered into the form is cleared and the
>> >> user
>> >> has to start over. I want the info to stay until the form is
> successfully
>> >> submitted. now, I can set the default value of the text fields to
>> >> request.form("fieldname"), but the problem here is that I WANT the
>> >> info
>> >> to
>> >> be cleared when the form is submitted (users are used to this
>> >> happening
>> > and
>> >> if the data stays in the form after a good submission they will be
>> > confused)
>> >>
>> >> is there something clever I can do here?
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> > Function GetDefault(Name)
>> >    If mbFailed Then
>> >        GetDefault = Server.HTMLEncode(Request.Form(Name))
>> >    End If
>> > End Function
>> >
>> > <input value="<%=GetDefault("field1")%>  name="field1" />
>> >
>> > I would recommend that you make yourself familar with the VBScript
>> > language
>> > such constructs as If Else End If and Function are really useful
>> > sometimes.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> close but doesnt work. it keeps the data even when the verification is
>> successful. you should try it out and youll see.
>> anyone else have any ideas?
>
> Yep it were broken here's one that works:-
>
> <%
>
> Dim mbFailed : mbFailed = True
>
> If Request.ServerVariables("HTTP_METHOD") = "POST" Then
> mbFailed = LCase(Request.Form("field1")) <> "bad"
> End If
>
> %>
> <html>
> <body>
>  <form method="POST" action="test.asp">
>   <input name="field1" value="<%=GetDefault("field1")%>" />
>   <input type="submit" value="Post" />
> </body>
> </html>
> <%
> Function GetDefault(Name)
>    If Not mbFailed Then
>      GetDefault = Server.HTMLEncode(Request.Form(Name))
>    End If
> End Function
> %>
>
>
>
Author
8 Oct 2006 8:01 PM
Bob Lehmann
>> if youre not going to provide a complete working example id rather give
up now

What a ridiculous comment!

I'd suggest that you just give up. You obviously have no aptitude or desire
for this, dude.

Bob Lehmann

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"SLH" <S**@SLH.SLH> wrote in message
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> dude... all due respect, that doesnt even DO anything.
> thanks for your help but if youre not going to provide a complete working
> example id rather give up now
>
>
>
> "Anthony Jones" <A**@yadayadayada.com> wrote in message
> news:uvmA8ju6GHA.3452@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >
> > "SLH" <S**@SLH.SLH> wrote in message
> > news:uOB2JUt6GHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>
> >> "Anthony Jones" <A**@yadayadayada.com> wrote in message
> >> news:%23DhVQug6GHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> >
> >> > "6" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:Oza7Wpg6GHA.4408@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> >> I have an asp page with a form that collects name, email address,
etc.
> >> >> the
> >> >> form page posts to itself so what I do is check to see if the
request
> >> > method
> >> >> is POST and if it is I grab the data, do something with it, and
> >> >> display
> > a
> >> >> message below the form. I want to implement an image verification
> >> > (captcha)
> >> >> system. the problem I have is that when you submit the form if the
> >> >> captcha
> >> >> test fails, all the info you entered into the form is cleared and
the
> >> >> user
> >> >> has to start over. I want the info to stay until the form is
> > successfully
> >> >> submitted. now, I can set the default value of the text fields to
> >> >> request.form("fieldname"), but the problem here is that I WANT the
> >> >> info
> >> >> to
> >> >> be cleared when the form is submitted (users are used to this
> >> >> happening
> >> > and
> >> >> if the data stays in the form after a good submission they will be
> >> > confused)
> >> >>
> >> >> is there something clever I can do here?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Function GetDefault(Name)
> >> >    If mbFailed Then
> >> >        GetDefault = Server.HTMLEncode(Request.Form(Name))
> >> >    End If
> >> > End Function
> >> >
> >> > <input value="<%=GetDefault("field1")%>  name="field1" />
> >> >
> >> > I would recommend that you make yourself familar with the VBScript
> >> > language
> >> > such constructs as If Else End If and Function are really useful
> >> > sometimes.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> close but doesnt work. it keeps the data even when the verification is
> >> successful. you should try it out and youll see.
> >> anyone else have any ideas?
> >
> > Yep it were broken here's one that works:-
> >
> > <%
> >
> > Dim mbFailed : mbFailed = True
> >
> > If Request.ServerVariables("HTTP_METHOD") = "POST" Then
> > mbFailed = LCase(Request.Form("field1")) <> "bad"
> > End If
> >
> > %>
> > <html>
> > <body>
> >  <form method="POST" action="test.asp">
> >   <input name="field1" value="<%=GetDefault("field1")%>" />
> >   <input type="submit" value="Post" />
> > </body>
> > </html>
> > <%
> > Function GetDefault(Name)
> >    If Not mbFailed Then
> >      GetDefault = Server.HTMLEncode(Request.Form(Name))
> >    End If
> > End Function
> > %>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Author
9 Oct 2006 8:32 AM
Anthony Jones
"SLH" <S**@SLH.SLH> wrote in message
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> dude... all due respect, that doesnt even DO anything.
> thanks for your help but if youre not going to provide a complete working
> example id rather give up now
>

Works fine.  Does what you asked.  If the input doesn't validate (in this
case typing the word 'bad') the form comes back with the data still intact
else it comes back blank.

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>
> "Anthony Jones" <A**@yadayadayada.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > "SLH" <S**@SLH.SLH> wrote in message
> > news:uOB2JUt6GHA.2384@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
> >>
> >> "Anthony Jones" <A**@yadayadayada.com> wrote in message
> >> news:%23DhVQug6GHA.3384@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> >> >
> >> > "6" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
> >> > news:Oza7Wpg6GHA.4408@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
> >> >> I have an asp page with a form that collects name, email address,
etc.
> >> >> the
> >> >> form page posts to itself so what I do is check to see if the
request
> >> > method
> >> >> is POST and if it is I grab the data, do something with it, and
> >> >> display
> > a
> >> >> message below the form. I want to implement an image verification
> >> > (captcha)
> >> >> system. the problem I have is that when you submit the form if the
> >> >> captcha
> >> >> test fails, all the info you entered into the form is cleared and
the
> >> >> user
> >> >> has to start over. I want the info to stay until the form is
> > successfully
> >> >> submitted. now, I can set the default value of the text fields to
> >> >> request.form("fieldname"), but the problem here is that I WANT the
> >> >> info
> >> >> to
> >> >> be cleared when the form is submitted (users are used to this
> >> >> happening
> >> > and
> >> >> if the data stays in the form after a good submission they will be
> >> > confused)
> >> >>
> >> >> is there something clever I can do here?
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Function GetDefault(Name)
> >> >    If mbFailed Then
> >> >        GetDefault = Server.HTMLEncode(Request.Form(Name))
> >> >    End If
> >> > End Function
> >> >
> >> > <input value="<%=GetDefault("field1")%>  name="field1" />
> >> >
> >> > I would recommend that you make yourself familar with the VBScript
> >> > language
> >> > such constructs as If Else End If and Function are really useful
> >> > sometimes.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> close but doesnt work. it keeps the data even when the verification is
> >> successful. you should try it out and youll see.
> >> anyone else have any ideas?
> >
> > Yep it were broken here's one that works:-
> >
> > <%
> >
> > Dim mbFailed : mbFailed = True
> >
> > If Request.ServerVariables("HTTP_METHOD") = "POST" Then
> > mbFailed = LCase(Request.Form("field1")) <> "bad"
> > End If
> >
> > %>
> > <html>
> > <body>
> >  <form method="POST" action="test.asp">
> >   <input name="field1" value="<%=GetDefault("field1")%>" />
> >   <input type="submit" value="Post" />
> > </body>
> > </html>
> > <%
> > Function GetDefault(Name)
> >    If Not mbFailed Then
> >      GetDefault = Server.HTMLEncode(Request.Form(Name))
> >    End If
> > End Function
> > %>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Author
8 Oct 2006 6:48 PM
Mike Brind
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"6" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
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>I have an asp page with a form that collects name, email address, etc. the
>form page posts to itself so what I do is check to see if the request
>method is POST and if it is I grab the data, do something with it, and
>display a message below the form. I want to implement an image verification
>(captcha) system. the problem I have is that when you submit the form if
>the captcha test fails, all the info you entered into the form is cleared
>and the user has to start over. I want the info to stay until the form is
>successfully submitted. now, I can set the default value of the text fields
>to request.form("fieldname"), but the problem here is that I WANT the info
>to be cleared when the form is submitted (users are used to this happening
>and if the data stays in the form after a good submission they will be
>confused)
>
> is there something clever I can do here?

This is *really* clever.  Don't show the form after a successful submission.
It confuses users.

--
Mike Brind
Author
8 Oct 2006 7:12 PM
Jim D
would be even more clever to read closely. i never said "dont show the
form", clearly what i said was that the data the user just typed should be
cleared, which is the default behavior on every form on the web.

so, any *clever* ideas?


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>
> "6" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
> news:Oza7Wpg6GHA.4408@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>I have an asp page with a form that collects name, email address, etc. the
>>form page posts to itself so what I do is check to see if the request
>>method is POST and if it is I grab the data, do something with it, and
>>display a message below the form. I want to implement an image
>>verification (captcha) system. the problem I have is that when you submit
>>the form if the captcha test fails, all the info you entered into the form
>>is cleared and the user has to start over. I want the info to stay until
>>the form is successfully submitted. now, I can set the default value of
>>the text fields to request.form("fieldname"), but the problem here is that
>>I WANT the info to be cleared when the form is submitted (users are used
>>to this happening and if the data stays in the form after a good
>>submission they will be confused)
>>
>> is there something clever I can do here?
>
> This is *really* clever.  Don't show the form after a successful
> submission. It confuses users.
>
> --
> Mike Brind
>
Author
8 Oct 2006 7:37 PM
Mike Brind
I read your post closely enough to wonder why on earth you would want to
present a blank form to users *after* a successful submission.  This is
*not* the behaviour that most users would expect, which is why you never see
any professional site do it.  The only time I present a blank form after
successful submission is if I expect further submissions from the same user.
If you wanted to allow users to make multiple submissions, you would not
want to clear their name, address etc.  You would retain it, so this is
obviously not what you are doing.  I suggest you do something new for you -
take your head out of your arse and think about it for just one nanosecond.

But if you are insistent on showing blank forms, go ahead.  Go with
Anthony's suggestion to try and understand If... Then... Else.  What you
want to do is very simply solved with a basic understanding of the
construct.

In your first post as "Jimmy" you said you have a "client", which suggests
you are getting paid to create whatever app it is you are posting about.  So
far as I can see, you have contributed nothing to it, but relied on people
here to do it all for you.  Now you have insulted and abused so many of us
that no one is prepared to help you any more, so you keep changing your
identity.

Well, Jimmy/Joe Reynolds/SLH/6/Jim D - you are on your own as far as I am
concerned.

Good bye.

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"Jim D" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
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> would be even more clever to read closely. i never said "dont show the
> form", clearly what i said was that the data the user just typed should be
> cleared, which is the default behavior on every form on the web.
>
> so, any *clever* ideas?
>
>
> "Mike Brind" <paxton***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:%23DaUapw6GHA.4352@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>
>> "6" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
>> news:Oza7Wpg6GHA.4408@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>I have an asp page with a form that collects name, email address, etc.
>>>the form page posts to itself so what I do is check to see if the request
>>>method is POST and if it is I grab the data, do something with it, and
>>>display a message below the form. I want to implement an image
>>>verification (captcha) system. the problem I have is that when you submit
>>>the form if the captcha test fails, all the info you entered into the
>>>form is cleared and the user has to start over. I want the info to stay
>>>until the form is successfully submitted. now, I can set the default
>>>value of the text fields to request.form("fieldname"), but the problem
>>>here is that I WANT the info to be cleared when the form is submitted
>>>(users are used to this happening and if the data stays in the form after
>>>a good submission they will be confused)
>>>
>>> is there something clever I can do here?
>>
>> This is *really* clever.  Don't show the form after a successful
>> submission. It confuses users.
>>
>> --
>> Mike Brind
>>
>
>
Author
9 Oct 2006 9:55 AM
Jim D
if youre lonely and pathetic enough to care, we work in teams of 2
developers, and share a dev station. rarely does anyone care enoguh to
change the name on the OE profile used for posting, hence the several names.

and one other thing... "arse"?


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"Mike Brind" <paxton***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>I read your post closely enough to wonder why on earth you would want to
>present a blank form to users *after* a successful submission.  This is
>*not* the behaviour that most users would expect, which is why you never
>see any professional site do it.  The only time I present a blank form
>after successful submission is if I expect further submissions from the
>same user. If you wanted to allow users to make multiple submissions, you
>would not want to clear their name, address etc.  You would retain it, so
>this is obviously not what you are doing.  I suggest you do something new
>for you - take your head out of your arse and think about it for just one
>nanosecond.
>
> But if you are insistent on showing blank forms, go ahead.  Go with
> Anthony's suggestion to try and understand If... Then... Else.  What you
> want to do is very simply solved with a basic understanding of the
> construct.
>
> In your first post as "Jimmy" you said you have a "client", which suggests
> you are getting paid to create whatever app it is you are posting about.
> So far as I can see, you have contributed nothing to it, but relied on
> people here to do it all for you.  Now you have insulted and abused so
> many of us that no one is prepared to help you any more, so you keep
> changing your identity.
>
> Well, Jimmy/Joe Reynolds/SLH/6/Jim D - you are on your own as far as I am
> concerned.
>
> Good bye.
>
> "Jim D" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
> news:%2393Gn2w6GHA.1560@TK2MSFTNGP04.phx.gbl...
>> would be even more clever to read closely. i never said "dont show the
>> form", clearly what i said was that the data the user just typed should
>> be cleared, which is the default behavior on every form on the web.
>>
>> so, any *clever* ideas?
>>
>>
>> "Mike Brind" <paxton***@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:%23DaUapw6GHA.4352@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
>>>
>>> "6" <no@spam.com> wrote in message
>>> news:Oza7Wpg6GHA.4408@TK2MSFTNGP02.phx.gbl...
>>>>I have an asp page with a form that collects name, email address, etc.
>>>>the form page posts to itself so what I do is check to see if the
>>>>request method is POST and if it is I grab the data, do something with
>>>>it, and display a message below the form. I want to implement an image
>>>>verification (captcha) system. the problem I have is that when you
>>>>submit the form if the captcha test fails, all the info you entered into
>>>>the form is cleared and the user has to start over. I want the info to
>>>>stay until the form is successfully submitted. now, I can set the
>>>>default value of the text fields to request.form("fieldname"), but the
>>>>problem here is that I WANT the info to be cleared when the form is
>>>>submitted (users are used to this happening and if the data stays in the
>>>>form after a good submission they will be confused)
>>>>
>>>> is there something clever I can do here?
>>>
>>> This is *really* clever.  Don't show the form after a successful
>>> submission. It confuses users.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Mike Brind
>>>
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